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We’re Leslie & Angella. Best friends for 45 yrs & counting.
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Episodes
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                    ![Four Black teenagers smiling on graduation day in 1980]()  Ep. 01Our Bestie Beginnings: But Can She Sew? 
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                    ![Young Black girl smiling for her school pictures in late 70s]()  Ep. 02Pivoting to Bigger & Better 
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                    ![Two older Black women wearing glasses in striped pajamas making grimacing faces]()  Ep. 03Mental Health Morning 
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                    ![Three stones with PRAY, GOD and Faith written on them in black lettering]()  Ep. 04You Gotta Have Faith - Part 1 
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                    ![Lavel Davis Jr., Devin Chandler and D'Sean Perry - the three student athletes killed in a mass murder in Charlottesville]()  Ep. 05Contemplations on Another Tragedy 
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                    ![Black woman in light pink sweater with hands on chest in a posture of gratitude]()  Ep. 06Gratitude - We Get To Do This 
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                    ![Black woman with big curly hair with ankara top and yellow skirt standing next to a]()  Ep. 07When You Know, You Just Know: Transition from Corporate to Entrepreneurship 
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                    ![Black woman with many question marks above her head]()  Ep. 08Some Questions Change Everything 
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                    ![Black young man and mother in hospital beds after kidney transplant and donation]()  Ep. 09Kidney Swap 
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                    ![]()  Ep. 10Coach Kim Coles is in the Building 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 01Season 2 is in the Building 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 02Take That Sabbatical; Inspiration from an Introvert 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 03The Nitty Gritty on Hair Loss 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 04Our Deep Dive on Hair Stuff 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 05Retiring Without All Ducks in a Row 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 06An Anthropologist’s Search for Home Abroad 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 07Busy Besties Catch-up 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep. 08Embrace Healthier Nutritional Choices 
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                    ![]()  S2 Ep.09Stereotypes & Prejudices from a Single Story 
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                    ![]()  S2 Bonus EpisodeCar Talk 
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                    ![]()  S2 Bonus EpisodeAccountability Partner 
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                    ![]()  S2 Bonus EpisodeBest of Season 2 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep. 1Rethinking Love & Marriage 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.02Accountability: Confrontation & Confessions 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.03F*ck Mr. Reiner 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.04Ageism & Othering in the Spotlight 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.05Back to White Affirmative Action in American Universities 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.06Black Legacies Matter: The Ordinary & Extraordinary Stories 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.07Allow Us To Reintroduce Ourselves 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.08An Intimate Exploration of Jamaican Ancestry 
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                    ![]()  S3 Ep.09More Stories on Caribbean Ancestry 
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                    ![]()  S3 Bonus EpisodeBack Together Thrifting & Thriving 
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                    ![]()  S3 Bonus EpisodeSupporting Black-Owned Businesses from Jump goes here 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 1Satin Bonnets & Respectability Politics 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 2Beholding Beauty: Stretch Marks, Wrinkles and All 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 3Grieving Andy 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 4The Meaning of Bestieship 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 5Meet Muralist Delia Miller 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 6Evening Wind Down 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 7Clitoris 101 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 8A Life Pivot to Combat Oral Health Inequities One Mouth at a Time 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 9Too Many Options 
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                    ![]()  S4 Ep. 10Why Do We Hide Our Light? 
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                    ![]()  Bonus EpisodeIt’s Our Anniversary 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep. 1Perspectives on Local Elections & Bloodshed in Israel 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep.2Reimagining Black Hair Culture 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep. 3From the Besties Vault 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep. 4Leaving A Financial Legacy Part 1 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep. 5Leaving A Financial Legacy Part 2 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep. 6Hit & Run 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep.7Black Boudoir 
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                    ![]()  S5 Ep.8Ho Ho Humbug 
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                    ![]()  S5, Ep.9Not Everyone’s Cup of Tea 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.1Copay Blues 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.2Are You Trippin? 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.3We Ain’t Mad at Katt Williams 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.4Daily Writing for the Soul 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.5You're Meant to Move with DK Ciccone 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.6Don't Wait for Your Travel Break with Stephanie Perry-Part 1 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep. 7Fani Willis and That Black Excellence Thing 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.8Don't Wait to Retire to Rest with Stephanie Perry-Part 2 
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                    ![]()  S6 Ep.9Why Don’t We Know More About The Legacies of Pauli Murray & Bayard Rustin? 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.1Radical Self Care for Women Who Change the Planet with Jennifer Campbell 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.2Done With the Suburbs: Rethinking Community as an Empty Nester 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.3Who's to Blame When Friendships Go Wrong 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.4What To Do Between 60 and Death 
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                    ![]()  S7 EP.5Getting Out of the ‘Stuff’ Phase of Life 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.6To Bucket List or Not to Bucket List 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.7Live Long & Live Well 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.8What You Never Knew You Needed: A Death Doula 
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                    ![]()  S7 Ep.9Embracing Your Evolving Identity Through Hair 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.1Toxic Job Liberation For Black Women with Dr. Kimani Norrington-Sands 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.2A Journey to Self-Acceptance in the Differently Abled Community 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.3Celebrating Family Milestones and the Gift of Life Through Organ Donation 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.4It’s Reunion Planning Time 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.5Scouting Out Costa Rica 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.6Debate: Do people generally do their best? 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.7Happy Pride: Attracted to Love 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.8Organizing and Decluttering: A Prescription for a More Joyful Life with Gayle L. Walker 
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                    ![]()  S8 Ep.9Preserving Black History in Raleigh with Carmen Wimberley Cauthen 
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                    ![]()  S9 Ep.1Analyzing Christian Values in a Troubled World 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.2Inching Closer to Choosing Life Abroad 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.3A Time of Truth Telling with NC Poet Laureate Jaki Shelton Green 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.4Black Excellence Explored: NC Poet Laureate Jaki Shelton Green's Literary Journey 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.5Are Your Quirks Pointing You to Your Joy? 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.6Art, Appropriation or Ridicule: Did Raygun Break Breakdancing? 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep. 7Why I Transitioned from Corporate at 54 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.8I’m Fallen in Love with My Heavier Body 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.9Get Ready and Get Registered: This Election Won’t Be Regular Degular 
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                    ![]()  S9, Ep.10What's Your Legacy? 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.1Y’all Ain’t Black Enough to Talk About Colorism! 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.2We’re Too Old for This Shit: The Inquisitive Older Woman’s Guide to Joy 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.3Listener Comments on our Colorism Conversation 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.4New Beginnings: Not All Rainbows & Unicorns So Find Anchors 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep. 5Dissecting Interviews: Coleman Hughes v. Ta-Nehisi Coates 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.6Dating Cities Before Moving Abroad 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.7Smh! If you can’t beat her, call her a tramp?!? 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.8Live: The Day After 2024 US Presidential Election 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.9Girl, You’re Doing Way Too Much! 
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                    ![]()  S10, Ep.10America: Should we stay or go? 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.1The Emotional Toll of Emptying Your Storage Unit 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.2Can Afrominimalism be the answer to living with less? 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.3Angie Swipes Right to Date a City: LA 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.4Why Malcolm Gladwell’s apology for stop & frisk isn't enough 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.5Why & How to Financially Plan your Escape from a Toxic Job 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.6The LA House & Pet Sitting Update: Is It Worth It? 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.7Why I Took a Break from a Job I Love 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.8The Surprising Benefits of Starting a Podcast or YouTube channel in Your 60s 
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                    ![]()  S11, Ep.9Downsizing with Heart and Humor 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep.1Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde is a Balm 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep.2The Full Body Impact of Menopause (and why you should care at any age) 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep 3Pop the Balloon: Do New Ways of Dating Work for Older Women? 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep. 4Self-care with Tools for Troubled Times 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep.5We’re “a lot”! How to embrace being “extra” 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep.6Join Us in Real Life in Raleigh 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep.7“I could never do that!” The bold-face lies we stopped telling ourselves 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep.8Trust your gifts: When a bold decision saved a life 
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                    ![]()  S12, Ep.9The Year of Menopause Session 2: Cultural Manifestations of Menopause 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.1Boots on the Ground: How These Black Boomers Navigate Political Anxiety 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.2The Only One in the Room: Navigating Predominantly White Spaces. 
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                    ![]()  S13, E.3The Currency of Friendship: How Two Black Boomer Besties View Money 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.4Our 45th High School Reunion Countdown 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.5A Reunion Story: High School Bonds Beyond Differences 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.6Your Job Shouldn't Cost You Your Health 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.7Extraordinary Female Friendships with Kim Coles 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.8Beyond the Tip: Discovering the Full Anatomy of Female Pleasure in Our 60s 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.9Slaying Dragons: How Negative Words Became Fuel for Success 
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                    ![]()  S13, Ep.10The Joy of Motorcycle Life: Black Women Who Bike 
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                    ![]()  S14, Ep. 1We're getting real about love, faith, and those moments that changed everything 
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                    ![]()  S14, Ep. 210 surprising discoveries from our first trip to Panama 
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                    ![]()  S14, Ep.3Hot Flashes and Heart Attacks: The Menopause Conversation Women Aren’t Having 
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                    ![]()  S14, Ep. 4What’s Behind Friendships That Last? 
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                    ![]()  S14, Ep.5How Rushing Past Pain Sabotages True Joy 
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                    ![]()  S14, EP.6Our internal pressure to achieve more: Is this a generational thing? 
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                    ![]()  S14, Ep.7Zig When Life Zags: Dr Hervé Damas’ Journey from the NFL to Cannabis Physician 
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                    ![]()  Ep139Your money or your weed? How I got both! With Dr. Hermé Damas 
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                    ![]()  Ep. 140A fabulous future starts today 
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                    ![]()  Ep. 141Freedom Dreams: How Black Women Shaped American Education 
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                    ![]()  Ep. 142Legacy Work: Guiding girls into STEM/STEAM with global travel experiences 
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                    ![]()  Ep. 143Joy Over Fear: Conquering Money Shame 
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                    ![]()  Ep.144Joy Over Fear: Why we left the trappings of our marriages 
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                    ![]()  Ep. 145Joy Over Fear: Your Body Deserves More Than You're Giving It 
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                    ![]()  Ep.146oy Over Fear: What Scares Us Most About Leaving 
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                    ![]()  Ep.147Boomers Doing AI 
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                    ![]()  Ep.148Wildcard Questions : Do we really know each other after 50 years? 
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                    ![]()  Ep.149She said yes at 63: A second proposal 40 yrs later 
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                    ![]()  Ep.150Navigating midlife love: Get smaller or get clearer 
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                    ![]()  Ep. 151Am I trippin? Facing the truth about over shopping 
 
        
        
      
    
     
                         
            
              
            
            
          
               
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                      